I dislike the gentle reminder it feels patronizing to me. I think please and thank you arent used enough in business communication. Well, it was one way we could make ourselves pay any kind of attention to her. Ive told you about it in this email, so now its your problem!, Another comment alluded nicely to the passive-aggressive usage of the phrase: Please advise is to the office as Bless your heart is to the South.. I love it! :). Ie, if youre reading along and you encounter a word you dont understand, you drop everything and look it up, right then and there. Love the feedback from the editor. ! Using please advise is my office-appropriate way of telling someone theyre on my list. One of our experts will correct your English. papenfuss. How should I handle your request? That comes off as way more snarky/passive-agressive than please advise. And Id hope that someone would cut me some slack should I unknowingly pick the wrong set of words. Such a pet peeve of mine! To me the gentle reminder reads as Pease dont be mad at me, but I need to remind you of [xyz]., How about friendly reminder? Plus I like telling people what to do. Oh, the fun we would have with their frequently used terms. We have a process for removing yourself from a distribution list, and replying to all to an email sent to the distribution list isnt it. Attempt to manage you/assign tasks and they arent your manager? I would like to give some of that advice to the current staff that I manage. The issue is that they want to find a delicate way, which implies I dont think you can handle a straightforward mention that Im still waiting on this. The desire to more delicate than that is what grates. Good morning SARA! Running errands: I have to get the needful done. Its the reminders that I *still* cant seem to figure out and loathe doing. Addressing specific people is key to getting the work done. Apparently its a standard phrase in Indian English (and not at all meant to be insulting), and Ive seen it in emails between Indian coworkers a few times now. It definitely gets results. No. Is there a long term way to get people to stop giving us unsolicited sales calls? portraitsbystanda.com. Its like some people where I work really hate double-sided printing. Now his bosses, they hated it. Because signing off with NOW WHAT PLEASE HELP MEEEE would be inappropriate. I think it is a fairly formal phrase, and when someone we are usually casual/informal/friendly with suddenly becomes formal it does seem like they are annoyed or being aggressive. Thank you !! Maybe thats a little too informal for some places, but it generally works for me. Answer (1 of 21): It's grammatically fine but meaningless. Prioritize Yourself. Thats almost threatening. I guess I could take the time to type out Would you like me to continue doing this in the future? Give yourself time to think When you receive an offer, it's common to ask for at least one day and up to a week to consider the terms. let me know your favorite. I dont think I would even know what that meant. Please advise. (if you wanted instant notification you could have sent it yourself!) hmm. How can we move forward is similar in that respect, I think. I work with someone who uses thoughts? a lot. For example, Ill try to call one of my peers. But otherwise, I typically use something that apparently many other people find really irritating: Thoughts?. Well, except when someone isnt responding. of these changes. If kids notice this stuff, its going to be even more obvious to adults. Your feedback helps us improve our service. If you're on the conservative side, you may want to just take my word for it. especially when the situations are complicated, and tbese are not people you are frequently emailing. Please let me know which date and time would suits you best is the most popular phrase on the web. This sounds kind of rude and a little angry to me. Could you please advise? I feel that, if I leave this last sentence out, my email will sound bratty without it with an underlying message of, Theres a problem with your request, DO SOMETHING. w.onload = loader; Yes, my grandmother who was born in the late 1800s as a young woman worked in the field all day and then at lunch break the men stretched out under a tree while she and other women served them lunch and then everyone went back to work. So its not on top of a question. This answer is: Hide . Please click the link that we've sent to this address to post your question to our experts.Ok, I'll check my email. I lay out the problem and then ask for advice. Especially if Im just showing up to help a busy desk (I work at a public library), it seems a lot more annoying to just plonk down behind the station and stare expectantly at the line until someone comes over to me. 1 The New York Times The only times it does, its not because of the phrase, its because of the person using the phrase. In social settings the phrase fix a plate as in the wife should fix a plate for her husband at buffets makes me see red because it is so integral to subcultures where women are subservient. What if it is outside their scope? I cant see anything remotely annoying in the phrase though I dont use it myself. Why am I having to ask you for the same thing multiple times??! I use it a lot when trying to settle an issue between two separate departments or interested parties. My bosss boss would end certain emails to me with that phrase. OP, yes, you are definitely interpreting it differently than it is intended. Its lazy. And please let me know when his lawyer gets here. Man, I cant stand when people use please advise but it is a lot more tolerable if they clearly state in the message specifically what action they want me to take. Floor plans starting at $925. They also like to use gentle reminder and thanks in advance. I do appreciate it when people are willing to take context into account, so sometimes an opener that acknowledges, hey, I know youve been working really hard on X so this might have fallen off the radar is appreciated, but I really do want to get you what you need! You need to say, at the end of the sentence, what it is you want both of you do. If you dont have the friendliest relationship with that person, their please advise can sound snippy. That is why I asked the OP if there were more issues at play in this office. She still did not understand. I close with Please advise, and cc the original parties in conflict so they can all see Im trying to get an answer from someone at a higher pay grade than me that needs to weigh in. I dont intend to sound bratty or condescending when I use it, I just have trouble finding a closer and email etiquette says that I should every. I admit Ive never heard of this interpretation of that closing. as is brekky, I think. We KNOW that some cultures crowd up and breath down your neck; we KNOW in our heads that it is a cultural difference this does not prevent the visceral reaction to being crowded that people who require more personal space feel. 2) People who hijack an email thread for an entirely different topic. Emails were coming in all day long. Hmm, please let me know how to proceed seemed more formal and curt to me. But I usually blend the can you do X question with kindly requesting so it reads, Can you kindly read X and do Y and get back to me with Z? Me too. I dont like What do you think? because Im not asking for thoughts or ideas, Im looking for explicit instructions on what to do next. should I be so emotionally drained by managing? Please advise doesnt annoy me and I use it myself much the same as Katie The Fed explained in her comment. Also, I dont mind it at all if people skip leaving me voicemail and instead email or IM with a request for me to call them back. Its not passive aggressive. How about Friendly reminder? You can use this phrase when speaking to houseguests or new coworkers. Please Advise Yes, when I read this question, my first thought was that I use it as sort of a sign-off after having gotten deeply into details. Satisfaction guaranteed! Have you had a chance to look into this yet? and Any updates on this? also work for some people. How do you feel about putting those words in bold instead? Some people are more formal than others. Boss: Theyre all fine, I dont have any real preference. I alwaya say friendly reminder. If necessary it becomes friendly but urgent! To me, its off puttingly brusque to say, reminder, I need this by friday, or your veeblefitz report is late, I need it asap. But then, Im from the Say-outh, where we use lots of words to hide displeasure. This is interesting. Would people be shocked? Ive been tempted). I have the same issue with the response No worries but due to a personal relationship, not a work one. } People can be so different! Bobby: Jane and I spoke, and we had a question about X. FYI, I copied Sue into the conversation as shes working on Y so I wanted to keep her looped in. If I was having the chocolate tea pot situation I would write, "Please let me know which option you prefer." I feel like more time is wasted when people try to save time on words and instead use "please advise". But that is definitely a personal preference issue. 5. I regularly use please advise and reading this question made me so upset! Kinda reminds me of getting a message from the Dean of Students, Please report to my office at your earliest convenience, without fail, I use quick reminder. I know Im starting to react badly to anyone saying I have a question or I have a *quick* question (questions in my industry are never quick) or Can I ask you a question? because I hear it fifty times a day, for example. Thanks, Persephone! I am way too informative. It would if they had already asked the questions and this was just a gentle reminder.. On many email systems, IT folks can lock down the major email lists with a restriction on who can send emails to them. If you'd prefer to cancel your membership placed through Shipt by contacting our customer support team, you can call our dedicated line at (205) 259-7798 between 8 am - 8 pm CT. . Some newbie staff members were constantly parking in that spot, which meant one of two things the midnight person had to use one of their breaks to move their car after that staff member left, or if that staff member forgot to move their car, they had to walk 500 metres in the dark to the staff carpark with no cameras at all. The opposite way is: knoweldgabley explain something factual and then use make sense? to see if the other person is following you. I supervise a manager who falsified an employee write-up but I dont think she should be fired, getting out of shared intern housing, why are so many executives condescending, and more, interviewer fake-rejected me to see if I would fight for the job. !1997 F350 XLT 4x4 Crew Cab (4 door) 7.3 Liter V-8 Diesel Powerstroke, Automatic with overdrive, Dana 60 front axle, Weld Racing Wheels and Toyo Open Country Radials (tires and wheels cost $4500) only 66,000 original miles Located in Seattle Washington 98188 1 mile from Seatac AirportI . Are these people abusing the cc feature? Hey, just a quick reminder to please send me blah blad by x date. Yes, agreed. Are they presenting you with new information about something thats typically your responsibility? That does happen to me on occasion. I would definitely let this one go.. Please advise rubs me the wrong way, too. Only because the former co-worker that sent it was constantly nagging me and it felt like she was using it in lieu of I need your input on this now. That seems really rude; after all, Im the one who is requesting the call so I should do the dialing. tag.parentNode.insertBefore(s, tag); Traduccin Context Corrector Sinnimos Conjugacin. . Oftentimes even after the actual document has already been shared!! Gentle Reminder.Grrrr makes me want to smack the sender. In order to post your question we need your email to notify you when the response will be available. Some dont want to take any responsibility. If someone whos not approved to send emails to the list has a legitimate reason to send out an email to everyone, that person can contact the relevant admin, who will vet the request and then send it on to everyone if its deemed appropriate. Also, just the sheer volume of email I got made it necessary to adopt some kind of triage system, and people who plainly asked for what they wanted from me always got priority. There was pretty much no correct response you could give. Its actually pretty nice, IMO I hate when someone calls me unexpectedly and wants me to look into some issue while Im in the middle of something (and hence most of the time I dont answer the phone if Im not expecting a call). Don't use the phrase, "Hope this helps" in an email. Especially the stilettos. Mar 31, 2012 5:50 AM. My grandmother (who was born in 1912 in Oklahoma) once said at a family buffet dinner, My lands, shouldnt we serve the menfolk first? because people were lining up to fill their plates. Can I help whoevers next would be perfectly grammatical, thoughhow about that? I have no problem in theory with please advise, but what bothers me is that it often indicates that someone is coming to me expecting me to solve their problem for them. In the same way: What do you like? It seems more like the person assumes that an IM is less invasive/interrupting than a phone call, so they want to check in before calling. The second option sounds like the sender is fed up. OMG yes please do the needful makes me stabby. If you want a man to treat you like a priority, you have got to prioritize yourself. because thats how it is used. I really hate sending those please submit your TPS report by noon, Friday e-mails, but its a part of my job (my least favorite part of my job). I often use please advise when faxing physicians to clarify a prescription. Annoyingly, Outlook will put the green squiggle under advise in the phrase Please advise and will suggest advice instead. no seriously, when you send a lot of emails to lots of people needing input, decisions, updates, etc, you have few options to close your email, so you trot these out often. I am reflecting that the phrase I hate to be a pest, but can also come off as passive aggressive. Extra formatting can just come off as shouting. Please advise (your dept.) You could use for your client, but I don't feel it's needed for your in-company superior (unless you're in a big company and sending to executives). Stands for very respectfully. Option 1 likely will result in this behavior but Option 2 will accomplish this.. But if youre my client and you need something, I will do my best to get you an answer, even if I have to be a bit sharp in tone. My peeve is when people reflexively end all emails with thanks, even when they are merely letting me know about something, not asking me for something. Which is a lot, because I think its a super useful phrase. I need to put in the order for either blue and green enamel for next months collector teapot, and I know you met with Jane about the collector line last Tuesday. Nobody sits there and thinks Okay, how can I let them know that I really need to hear back from them on this? They just type Please advise. This is what language is all about, really. if you wish. I also get gentle reminder emails and never take offense. In a perfect world, I wouldnt need it. Often I see please advise on an I just described a hilariously tangled or annoying situation email and it generally translates to I dont even know. Sometimes Id be copied in as a courtesy, other times someone was expecting an answer from me, and sometimes I was supposed to understand that I should NOT reply even if I knew the answer (because of the political implications of the message, the people on the email chain, etc.). Yes. Usually it is something that has gotten lost in my inbox and I appreciate someone sending me a gentle reminder rather than just cursing my lack of responsiveness behind my back. I dont feel comfortable using it as a full sentence because it sounds a little stilted to me, but I dont mind when other people use it. Its sort of a crowd control thing. ", Thank you so much! It is Something That Is Not Done in our culture (which tends to be very email/IM-focused). my boyfriends manager told me I could date someone better, new CEO keeps talking about diet and exercise, coworker asks me to cover for him when hes not really off, and more. Time. When its just one delinquent person I usually begin with Hey I hate to be a pest but. If you have met with the hiring manager and feel good about the role and your candidacy, and you prefer one company over the other, the reach out to the hiring manager immediately. People tend to use it when wrapping up to indicate, Can you give me your thoughts on this? or How should I handle this? I dont think its in any way intended to be demanding its just a wrap-up to the message. I have a lady who has Thank YOU! (note the application of all-caps) as part of her email signature I read it differently but I dont interact with her on a day-to-day basis so I just suck it up. As in, The task youve given me is physically impossible. Ill use Please advise when forwarding a question from one party to another when I dont know what question needs to be asked. Please Keep Me Up To Date After some research, I have found that A and B are mutually exclusive and will cancel each other out if theyre implemented together. Is that better? They are rarely, if ever, able to clearly articulate their reason(s) and at that point, I ask them to please refrain from using it in communicating with me. Prefacing the word reminder with gentle or friendly is a feeble attempt to soften the blow. I think overall people have a hard time getting tone correct when reading emails. In mine, please advise is typically used when someones pretty irritated with you. She simply could not comprehend that we had a procedure in place Im guessing because she did not put it in place herself. Especially annoying if its a repeat offender one of my co-workers and I used to joke that it actually meant please give me advice so I can ignore it and do whatever I want anyway, and then blame you when it went wrong because then I can CYA and say well, I asked Meg Murry for her advice and carefully neglect to mention that I didnt actually follow her advice. Please let me know when it completed or Please let me know when it complete? There was no history of bleeding; stool sample was negative for occult blood. The other thing I see it used for in my office is as a handoff when the question or problem thats being asked is my jurisdiction, but someone else is acting as a go-between in my case this is usually a question from a student thats being forwarded to me by their advisor, or something like that. This is what I generally do. We're pretty excited about this feature, so please let us know how it works for you. 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