During theCromwellianconquest of Ireland (1643-53) more than 160,000 Irish Catholics were exiled to the British territories of West Indies with 10,000 of them finding a home on the Island of Montserrat to work as servants alongside the Africans. Another theory notes that the Irish were originally descended from Scythians, from present-day Iran (and that these people also migrated to Spain). When Alzheimer's kicked in, she admitted that her stepdad was a bootlegger with the Underwood family of Dallas, and she had to answer the phone--despite being 14 or younger. I certainly do not mean to offend anyone, but the term "black irish" has nothing to do with dark hair. I'll tell you one thing: the Irish can be the fightin'est people around, with easily offended pride and quick to physical confrontation. Who knows and who cares? There are 5 million Irish in Ireland, north and south. Yes, she is of German ancestry, which is very interesting. It is, in fact, a big point of study in UCD. I was always under the impression that "Black Irish" meant you were fair with light eyes and very dark hair. The smarminess of the Irish Spring soap ads. It might not have been right, but we earned it, and by god, no bloody Englishman is going to take it away again. That, along with other characteristics, show the modern day Irish and Scottish and others of the original Celtic nations to be a distinct people unto themselves, rather than some variation of Teutonic origins, as with the English. I have a photo of her mom--Charlcye Elrod, and nobody doubts she's part-Black. In the United States, for example, the people identified as African Americans do not share a common set of physical characteristics. my father is tanned all year round, that guy gets a tan in the winter, me though, i am not as dark as my father, but when i am in the sun i get an instant tan. It should be noted that there hasn't been any proven theory as to how the black Irish came about. "Black Irish" sometimes refers to Black people who are also citizens of Ireland, but it is also a colloquial term that refers to caucasian people of Irish ancestry who have black hairtheir eyelashes and body hair may also be noticeably black as well. My mom is too, but she dies her hair. Women's lips are at their most fleshy, and men's facial hair are at their strongest; dark-haired men often have a shadow around the jaw even when they're shaved. slow-witted Saxon, the most outrageous is the palming off on him of the @Anon109506: The Irish experience you spoke of was more common in the northeastern U.S. We Black Irish in America are descended from America's slaves. brown hair, green eyes (that change color), and fairly pale skin. I am Irish. I am African American of Irish and other European decent. It's not impossible for Mulatto people who are Irish to look more like their Irish parent, or vice versa. Some of them ended upmarrying the local womenwhile some were proffered the liberty to return to Spain. He is vain, a You don't hear of wealthy people moving to a new country for a better life and say Im black Irish. He says (and i'm not trying to offend anyone, this is a VERY serious question) that the Black Irish were also known for insanity. . Another possible origin of this term is that it was created by people who wanted to hide their true ancestry. 89,746. Where are the romans now? Gerry Adams, head of the IRA's political wing, Sinn Fein, has been I myself am of Irish descent with darker features and was interested in the term black Irish. Enya, Paul Ryan, Lara Flynn Boyle, Peter Gallagher, Rob James Collier, and Jennifer Connelly all have Irish ancestry, and all four of them would be called black Irish in the colloquial sense. The basic facts: The Ancient Irish were children of King David of Israel. There is a bleak romance of perversity, as seen recently in the faces Most all my family is still in Boyle and that is what it is. i have been told a couple times that i am dark skinned like tanned i suppose and my father's family are descendants of Ireland and Britain and my mother's are of Ireland Scotland Germany and Britain and my mom seems to think i could have black Irish in me because i am dark all year round, is this possible? It is simple. It's not stereotyping, it's just what is, and some would say these are very admirable traits, but I feel that these unique Irish traits have become watered down in the last few decades, as has happened worldwide due to just pure global mixing, television, etc. I still am not quite sure what that is, but the family name for five generations of women that I know of is Regina Alicia.I don't think that is a traditional Irish name. Im from dublin, ireland. Is it possible that because the gt grandparents settled in the 1850s by the Five Points area of NYC that they were labeled that way? It really does annoy me when folk post fake info on stuff they clearly know nothing about. I thought "Dark Irish" refers to those as having very fair skin yet dark hair and blue, green or hazel/brown eyes. The Cherokee people have lived in the southeast United States for thousands of years. Like in the time of Martin Luther King Jr. when there was a "coloured" drinking fountain and a "whites only" drinking fountain. feeling it's the mothers who give them to the sons, at least -- that It is striking, though, how this tale is very similar to the ancient Irish legend of the Milesians who settled in Ireland having traveled from Spain. "Black Irish" were not racially sensitive, unlike others. You don't say we'll I have white skin so I must be European, or I have tan skin and black hair so I must be from Mexico or Spain. I would love to see all your photos, as i could read your face (Antonio}. make you worry they know something you don't. They all . Long chin, dark brown hair, 6 tall 170lbs, slender athletic build, quite strong for my size. They have the best white hair in 'Black Irish' is often a description of people of Irish origin who had dark features, black hair, dark complexion and eyes. ("Defeat of the Spanish Armada", painted by Philip James de Loutherbourg). ", On his way out of the room, Adams said: "People are always saying This term also might have social or political origins rather than being based on genetic history or appearance. Look at people like Gabriel Byrne. She was adopted, but her Mother always told her she was 100% Irish from what they knew about her birth mother. Caroline Keating, an expert in non-verbal communication at Colgate University in New York, told BBC Future, "The big eyes, the long lashes, the arched brows, the plump lips, the small chins, the . I'm saying all that to say, it's very possible for a priest or anyone else to improperly identify a child's race at birth. Many have black hair. For all of you who posted your family was referred to as being black Irish, look what they did for a living. I have Irish eye shape as well, more obvious when I was a young child. "Of all the tricks which the Irish nation have played on the The history of U.S. discrimination against the Irish, however, offers an interesting comparative data point. this article is very interesting indeed. The last names were traditional Irish names(fairly common). It was also used in Ireland by Catholics in Ulster Province as a derogatory term to describe the Protestant Planters. Peter Frost also supports this in his study titled European hair and eye color . classifying this subgroup with the term "black Irish" made them instantly distinguishable. A recent RTE program revealed that genetic records show that the *true* Irish Gaels are indeed dark curly haired with complexion varying from season to season. I ran into a lady once who said it makes her so mad to hear the term "Irish American". those We mostly all have blue eyes and auburn hair. Easter portraits with hundreds of looked forward to.". Most of the comments posted on this page are just people's theories. Good news, people. Our grandfather is 84 and still has jet black hair. The true origin of this term might never be known. I have what my uncle described as an Irish face, and he is the family historian. I read that "Black" placed before an ethnicity, i.e., Black Irish; Black German, etc., alludes to those ethnicities inter-marrying with Native Americans, and the children, born darker than their Irish parents, were referred to as black to hide the native American blood, as this was quite shameful at the time. 00:00 - What does a black Irish look like?00:42 - Why do Irish have red hair?01:16 - What are typical Irish facial features?Laura S. Harris (2020, December 3. People, get this straight. born in Ireland and now director of sales at the Phoenix Park Hotel. I have dark brown hair, although it used to be black, but I dyed it blond a while ago, so it's proving difficult to get the color completely back. If you go to Irish speaking communities, you will see a significant number of the population with dark features. When Rome invaded Ireland many, many times they found they could never defeat the Irish, and as we all know, if you can't re-write history, then you can discredit it! Black Irish might be a bad thing to some people, but I haven't met a single one who wasn't incredibly good looking. I think there is truth to the Irish/Spanish connection like my parents spoke of. said, "Romantic Ireland's dead and gone.". I think it's just interesting to have these conversations and share what connects us and what makes us unique. i think the person who wrote about the insanity thing is wrong a bit but a lot of people of this background who i know are always in trouble and temperamental. Faces of bitter precision that FIG. Yes, you can tell ethnicity by facial features. HubPages is a registered trademark of The Arena Platform, Inc. Other product and company names shown may be trademarks of their respective owners. Interestingly, the term is rarely referred to in Ireland but has circulated among Irish emigrants and their descendants for centuries. I'm a descendent of the Fitzgeralds who were Normans that were given lands in Ireland by the Brits. ", A Britisher at Adams's press conference at the Capital Hilton you are all victims of the anglo-american public school scheme that reconstructed history and told you who you are. "Black Irish" is a bit of Irish humour, you see. This mutation, pheomelanin, is responsible for the yellow-red pigmentation, while eumelanin is the default coloring for most humans - the brown-black end of the pigmentation scale. Without a subpoena, voluntary compliance on the part of your Internet Service Provider, or additional records from a third party, information stored or retrieved for this purpose alone cannot usually be used to identify you. Are these typical facial features of Irish people long oval shaped faces Medium too High cheekbones Small eyes that are thin and narrow Round Prominent chin Slightly Upturned nose Dark hair and Dark eyes are very common among Irish people like Dark Brown and Hazel even Black hair and Brown eyes is also common Milky . "Black Irish" sometimes refers to Black people who are also citizens of Ireland, but it is also a colloquial term that refers to caucasian people of Irish ancestry who have black hairtheir eyelashes and body hair may also be noticeably black as well. I'm sure this term means different things to people, but in America, the Black Irish are simply the 15 percent with black hair, blue or green eyes, and pale skin. Both sides,in fact all my family branches - whatever date they cam to England - are irish catholics, having the oldest gaelic names in Irelandandmostly the very west too. Red hair was a mutation of the protein that normally expresses (genotype) as eumelanin, in the realm of the black/brown hair color. In fact, your average Southerner claims Irish ancestry with pride. It would eventually show itself amongst other animals of the period, continuing until today. The skin color is not the "dark" part, but the hair. A good example is Queen Elizabeth II. The Normans were invited into Ireland by Dermot McMurrough and were led by the famous Strongbow. Is Amazon actually giving you a competitive price? I understand this. I was born blonde, now have dark hair, with blue eyes and olive skin. I was born with blonde/brownish color hair, with blonde eye brows. The position of a point on a facial image of one member of an identical twin pair should be very similar to the position of the corresponding point on the image of the other twin. Fascinating discussion. Yes, there are black Irish - maybe they are examples of the first Celts. However, it is widely disputed whether the Tuatha were real Celtics and whether the Fir Bolg were the Cro-Magnon people. Stubborn, a born fighter, violent, physical, passionate. i have heard that the Irish, Scottish & Manx are the Lost Tribe Of Judah that settled in the UK thousands of years ago, the Celts are the Tribe of Judah from Israel? Some Irish have dark hair. A quick review of Irish history reveals that the island was subject to a number of influxes of foreign people. My oldest brother has dark brown hair, green eyes and freckles. We know how to work. All I have is family oral history and a very old family Bible. Myths point out that they were exiled from India into Europe after an Afghani King invaded northern India in the 15th Century. Up for the craic - the craic is nothing but mighty with us. With that all said, I didn't get the impression anyone in this string of comments disagrees. In fact, they generally lived in ghettos (like non-English-speaking immigrants of that time), and some worked alongside black (African) slaves in the coal mines. My family has people of all hair and eye colors. Not consenting or withdrawing consent, may adversely affect certain features and functions. ", Anne Marie Schmidt, a Washington restaurant manager from Dublin, Their noses were softer and smaller than their Germanic counterparts - more like African than "European" (as it was generally understood). . Most Spanish, Greek and southern Italians still retain their Indian roots. anon9141 sounds like a mixture similar to the Melungeons. I was adopted and have always been asked what my nationality was, since I have no idea. brought with him. There are some redheads in Ireland though but not as many as there are people with dark eyes and hair. The dog's head features a trademark topknot of curls, and its tail tapers into a smooth "rat tail" that lacks curls. No one can be politically correct, but that doesn't mean they're trying to offend anyone. However, all the theories are hotly contested among Historians except for the Montserrat theory. I am Irish, so who gives a crap? Also, I was told that we were travelers and all I know is I have black hair and green eyes and I love moving around. light olive skin, but tans in the summer (she can be mistaken for Italian, Mexican or Mediterranean). or Nigerian faces. Black Irish? One study found that men rated baby-like features including "large eyes, small nose, and small chin" as most attractive. The interpretations of the findings of DNA are just that 'interpretations' very contentious and very misleading. I was told i was black irish so i don't know but these are my features, but they made for one hell of a model. My wife is stocky, square shouldered, big of hand, big feet, fair skinned, but dark hair and eyes, very strong physically, and very, very strong emotionally. they would have had all kinds of them in and out of Ireland and the men would leave, leaving the women and the child behind which could easily change physical characteristics of a nationality. The Black Irish don't have fair skin usually. I assume none of you have studied ancient celtic civilizations or anthropology either. Maybe it isn't a myth. There is evidence that a small percentage of prehistoric people that lived in present-day Spain and Portugal (the Iberian Peninsula) migrated to present-day Ireland. Where this coloring may originate is an interesting question. I had no idea what that meant and shrugged it off until now when i stumbled across this site. And yes, this family considered themselves to be "Black Irish", from the time of the wrecks of the Spanish Armada. My grandmother's side is irish. From 2 Samuel 13. Early black and white (Irish) slaves in America, Barbados, Montserrat and other colonies mixed sexually and culturally. Also, can the world start using the term Irish for the race of people living in Ireland and please please irish american for the lovely people with Irish ancestors who are a different race. the world. Now the terms are redneck, hillbilly, yank, you get the idea. She claimed to be of "Black Irish" descent on her mother's side (her mother or grandmother may have been part Indian in the Missouri Territory). From a totally different perspective, the BlackIrish are believed to bedescendedfrom the Negroid race as opposed to the other BlackIrish who are Caucasians. Black Irish is a term for Irish people who are rare in their coloring. Oddly, my high school history teacher (US) informed my classmates and me that "black Irish" refers to the color of the dark soil where they lived. I happen to be fair-skinned because my father was although he had very thick, almost-black wavy hair. If your Gt Grandpa was described as Mulatto on the census, and your Gt Grandma was not, then maybe he really was genuinely Mulatto. One theory about the origin of this term focuses on an event that took place in 1588, when more than 20 ships carrying members of the Spanish Armada wrecked on the coast of Ireland. The reason I am interested in this is because when my sister was dying of cancer at Sloan Kettering, they discovered she had thalassemia, and asked us if we were Black Irish. My mom has thalassemia, as do other members of my family from my mom's Irish side. (The face of a tough, smart priest, the youngest When I was a younger man, some asked if I was black Irish. You see them at the parades and they are like "yeah I'm really Irish dude. I am part irish i am also half italian but I do have black Irish features. A teenage boy longs to win the attention of his emotionally distant father. My mother's father was of Black Welsh and Black Irish stock. no1 has yet answered my question does any1 have an answer 4 me? The Irish are a mix of many backgrounds, like the English. If you say it to the wrong person they may take it as a nasty racial slur. The findings are published in The American Journal of Human Genetics at the University of Chicago. Rock musician Bob Geldof was quoted in the Irish Echo as saying: It first appeared in humans with dark hair and skin, enabling them to take advantage of their ability to make more D vitamins, which enabled them to flourish in the higher latitudes. My dads last name is Baker, because way back when my family were bakers, his family lived in Ireland and Scotland and moved to the U.S. I am so grateful to have my DNA tests and to have some knowledge of where my ancestors come from. My question is; how can people have blue black hair and blue or green eyes? Also, his wife, my paternal grandmother came from a family of three siblings - one red haired and freckled like me (like my grandmother), one blond haired, blue eyed with pale skin who looked Scandanavian and one who was dark haired, with dark eyes and skin. I have always thought that I my cousin and my aunt look so different. on my mums side the features are brown hair & brown eyes. That is utter rubbish. The three older ones have blue eyes and my younger sister my brother have green eyes. Also, they have rounder faces, fuller lips, and larger eyes than people in South Wales. and many of her songs have a Celtic sound. A quick review of Irish history reveals that the island was subject to a number of influxes of foreign cultures. Many ethnic Iberian groups have also since died out. As odd as it may seem, my g-g-grandfather was dead set against slavery and fought for the Union in the Civil War. Maybe it was because of some naughty priests who came from the south and had illegitimate babies. Stereotypical Scandinavian traits and facial features have since the early 20th century included straight, blonde hair; blue eyes; tall figure; a straight nose; thin lips; and non-prominent cheekbones, according to Werner & Bjrks 2014 book Blond and Blue-eyed. @Anon99496: I wouldn't be so quick to discount the article's definition. Wouldn't miss one. anyway my skin is extremely pale, cause I tend to burn, so sunscreen, sunscreen, sunscreen. However, the actual origin of the term BlackIrish is still a hotly contested subject among many people. In Southern Ireland, some people, referred to as "Black Irish", are noted for their strikingly dark features, as opposed to the fair-skinned, light-haired north. My dad was almost pure German, so I'm not losing any sleep over a few ancient branches of my mother's family tree, in Ireland, and Scotland. Another theory of the origin of the term "Black Irish" is that these people were descendants of Spanish traders who settled in Ireland and even descendants of the few Spanish sailors who were washed up on the west coast of Ireland after the disaster of the Spanish Armada of 1588. color James Joyce described as "oakpale." It really is some Spanish, or at least the same descendants of the Spanish, you can just see it and notice it even when it's only 10 percent. I smiled and replied, "Well Ma'am, if a family comes from China or Africa or Japan etc. jowls, layer on layer, chin on chin, eye bags on eye bags, sometimes Reactions. Fleming, Murphy Brown, Ryan Ostroff, Tyrone Washington and, for girls, I have black hair bright blue eyes and tan skin all natural. They have fair, cool-toned skin like most Irish people. Europeans generally most closely resemble their neighbours, so the Irish are closest to the people in western Britain, and quite close to the English, while the eastern and southern English are quite close to the continental peoples to the east. They have black hair, brown eyes. legend sometimes hides truth. An These features are normally dark hair, dark blue/green/brown eyes and sallow skin. Blacks ruled Scotland for many years. These stories persist in the midwest and some of the Indian communities - my mother's family, too. They are the "snakes" that Irish people celebrate chasing out of Ireland on St. Patrick's day. Not sure where the term comes from, but I know during Irish slavery when the Irish were shipped as white cargo to the Americas and the West Indies as slaves, they were bred with African slaves to so called "create" a better and cheaper slave (than an African slave). It was later against the law to breed Irish and African slaves because it cut into the profit of a major slave shipping company. The suggestion of a Basque/Iberian is now known to be spurious. With Michael Angarano, Brendan Gleeson, Tom Guiry, Melissa Leo. In appearance, the Irish are very fair-skinned and do not tan easily, have mainly light-coloured eyes, are quite tall, and their hair color ranges from black to dark brown or dark reddish brown, with some reds and blondes. King Niall, Shane the Proud, slope down like chevrons. Each of these immigrant groups had their own physical characteristics and all, with the exception of the Ulster Planters, assimilated to some degree into Irish society, many claiming to be "more Irish than the Irish themselves". Similar, yet so very different. my eyes are brown, my hair is jet black and my skin is very pale..people often tell me i look russian but i don't have russian heritage..its all seemingly irish and scottish..im trying to do more research on my ancestry.. I know that most of the people i went to school with in Jarrow, south tneside(northeast england) were all from ireland and the area is more irish than those left behind in Ireland itself, so that any test of' English people' here along with myself would show mostle Gaelic markersnot Anglo-saxon or Germanic. maybe it's different in america, but my dad said before that the term black irish was used to describe carribeans of irish and african decent in london and that a hundred years ago to justify oppression the english used to try to make similarities between irish and africans. But though dark Irish are a minority of the makeup in Ireland, it's a majority throughout the world. In her younger years, my paternal grandmother could have easily passed for a Native American, but she looked just like her great-grandfather, who came over in the 1840s during the Great Famine. If the Spanish Armada story is an unlikely answer, then perhaps we should consider the hundreds of years of "trade" with Spain in Irish ports. The term "Black Irish" refers to those Irish who were borne to the Irish and the Moors---don't you know your history? This is just a bunch of opinions going back and forth. Thank-you so much to all of you. Copy. The dense coat is waterproof, an ideal trait for this expert swimmer and water retriever. Other Celtic friends have told me they also know of the genetic link between Aboriginal Australians and "original Celtic peoples.". drunken Irish feuding: "I implore you to discard forever . Ireland was under the dominion of the Moors before other inhabitants moved the the island. However, there are Irish persons around the world that will have a dark complexion. account in 1913 said: "His hair is of a fiery red, he is rosy-cheeked, Irish in the room with their shamrock pins, members of the Ancient Order It's possible that the Viking invasion before the 10th century, as well as the 16th century event of the Spanish landing on the Island, resulted in the Dark Irish. It remains, therefore, a descriptive term used for many purposes, rather than a reference to an actual class of people who may have survived the centuries. Although it often has been used as an insult, many people proudly describe themselves or their ancestors as Black Irish. Best. i just want to say that i have black irish on my dad's side and my moms side is cherokee indian. ecstatic; astringent as well as lyrical. This group is also sometimes referred to as black Irish. Our heritage helps us connect, and teaches us respect for others as well as for ourselves. I am Irish and growing up was told we were Black Irish meaning Roman Catholic. Hence the folklore about us being touched by fairies *fond childhood memories.*. Africans and people who had dark features were often held in distaste and considered to be inferior. Consenting to these technologies will allow us to process data such as browsing behavior or unique IDs on this site. Wow-I had no idea what the term Black Irish meant and after reading all these posts I'm still confused. An Alpine from the Black Forest, Baden. from Brooks Brothers. 4 (3 views). We're all originally from Africa. Can I just refer some of you to the great work by Stephen Oppenheimer to put the Irish genetic ancestry debate here to bed. This was in reference to their dark and evil souls as the locals perceived them. What is their Irishness? Brian Boru, Rory O'Connor: At various times Ireland has been divided To say that Basque and Irish are related is an outdated theory. 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