We enjoyed the crazy amount of products, the fantastic range of online shopping and the quality customer service. After the Brexit shock, more and more Brits are looking to move away from the UK. However, the vast majority of Brits are not racist, just a small majority (around 52%), you know, those who voted to leave. As a small island, the UK has and always will be expensive, but this is the same as all other developed small islands, Iceland, Bahamas, Singapore, New Zealand etc. I do believe though that what is happening in the Uk is happening all over the world (in terms of the standard or quality of life ). xx Morgan. Learn more. Anyway, good luck How on earth can you say the roads in the Uk are well maintained????? Nevertheless, I wanted to tell the world what is going on and why we honestly wanted to leave the country. If you still believe this is not possible, take me and my husband as examples. I now live full-time in Germany and just enjoy the lifestyle better. Your thoughts and feelings on Brexit and on many of the other aspects affecting living in the UK, are the same ones that I share. Good luck to you! Did you like this article? Even the communities which have not integrated over 40-50yrs (lessons learnt? Nothing to do with skin colour or ethnicity (as once was), it's about money and yes, class. It took me years of hard work before I could even begin my application as a British citizen. I live in Norfolk, so I cannot agree with the rain problem (we occasionally have drought issues here) but otherwise I think you have touched upon all the issue that I cannot come to terms with. British people love Italy. As a Brit who has lived abroad for 10 years (in Germany), I always said that I could not really see myself going back to live there permanently for similar reasons. We both naturalised to become British citizens. Any suggestions, we love the beach/city life but don't want to be too remote, so I think somewhere like Australia would be out as its hours of driving to get to another town or hours on a plane to get to another country. Yes, also immigrants but expats are self-financing and short stay. I live in the UK right now (Scotland), but I'm not a citizen. I am originally from the UK, but have been living in Australia for the past 4 years and have been debating whether to make the move back to the UK due to wanting to be near family. Something that I should add - if you visit Yorkshire namely Leeds, Bradford, Halifax, Huddersfield, Wakefield, Sheffield, Barnsley, Doncaster, Rotherham, Goole, Hull and Scarborough. Stay safe! Honestly though, what do we have to do and who do we have to vote for to get these unwanted immigrants and their allies the hell out of our land? On describing those who use the word, the society stated that "we all know their old serviette/napkin, lounge/living room, settee/sofa tricks. Seriously, who compared the UK with Romania? In this groundbreaking investigation, Owen Jones . For example from london eye to Stonehenge, are very different places but both beautiful. I wish you all the luck. In the Balkans we also have pljeskavica or plecavia which is a kebab burger. You can enjoy all four seasons! Tolerant please don't make me laugh. In fact, I am in the market for a new European car (which allows me to drive on the right-hand side) and the equivalent of the car I am selling here, is 5 times the price in any other European country. Ever since I lived in mainland Europe (and you know, happy EU countries) we bought seasonal clothes and enjoyed 4 seasons. I have no hesitation in saying most brits ARE racists but live in denial.English people progress quickly everywhere despite only being half as qualified as a person of colour. UK is my dream after watching Harry Potter movies (call me silly or what), and then this trip just ruined it. Owning a car doesn't come cheap in the UK, but luckily, the car market in the country is one of the cheapest in Europe. Most ordinary British people outside of the chattering classes in liberal metropolitan London know they are the Jones who can no longer keep up with their richer Aussie Jones cousins or the Singaporean and Hong Kong Tans. Am I wrong? You honestly think Scotland is the best thing about the UK? See the look on their faces when they realised what that vote actually meant. [10] In the 2010 book Stab Proof Scarecrows by Lance Manley, it was surmised that "chav" was an abbreviation for "council housed and violent". So last year bought a house in a mountain town in the Sierra Nevada mountains. I think after a decade of living in the UK, certain things started changing a bit too much and got to us. Hi Brian, thank you for your insightful message. I respect your opinion. Everyone did something about it. I wrote an article about a similar topic a month ago. For Eastern Europeans, the UK is the worst place in the world after Italy and maybe also France and Spain, This article is a good article, and basically expresses many truths of English society, I am glad that even you as an immigrant have noticed. I want to take this opportunity to wish you well, wherever you two decide to settle. Canada is so high on our bucket list. In particular if you get over 50 and are jobless you are totally screwed and even if you have a pension you simply cannot afford to live there. As much as you might like the rain (and I already said that I vehemently love the rain), it eventually gets to you. Being English is a privilege, the UK is a good country and one of the best in the world. Cory, are you a mind reader? Complete and utter rubbish. I grew up in the 1980s and had real racist abuse (P*** word etc).However, for every racist, there was *always* 4-5 kids, adults etc berating them and defending me. (Not saying that everyone in the North is racist, nor am I saying no Southerners are racist - just a generalisation). A mark of this growing idiocy is the fact that a circus clown like Jacob Rees-Mogg can play a part in politics. 'Avant-garde fashion and full of chavs' - Lincolnshire described in vicious online write-ups. Those racists that bully immigrants in the Uk should remember what many of their ancestors did around the world in the past, that is, exploit people, countries, resources, etc. It's merely a route to (SE) England. Just because the UK was unable to tighten the system in regards to NHS and benefits access. Rent is ridiculously expensive and housing quality is despicable, I was shocked! It doesn't rain disproportionately at all. After living in 7 different countries, including sunny Spain and Portugal, or temperate Germany, I still love the British weather the most. I still remember wanting to go from Bristol to London and prices being close to 150 for a return ticket. I mean let's spend millions on exiting. The core of the British kitchen is the oven, as you might already know from the Great British Bake Off. What a load of rubbish. Dear Renee, you can't please everyone. Plus I wouldn't want to negate your experience anyway. A 2006 survey by YouGov suggested 70% of TV industry professionals believed that Vicky Pollard was an accurate reflection of white working-class youth. It gets to you when you realise you can't buy t-shirts because, in reality, you need sweaters, thermals and raincoats. We were the first country to be industrialised, like most of the world now, and our parliamentary system is followed the free world over. You can rent a PO box for your business and move it there. There is a lot of incentive for young entrepreneurs to start a new business here and we took full advantage of this. This is not to say that England (or the rest of the UK) is not a good place to live. Bradford, Calderdale, Kirklees, Leeds, and Wakefield all contribute to this high level of crime, and violence and sexual offenses are prevalent crimes, with over 100,000 crimes reported each year. They told me they didn't want me because I couldn't spell. It's about the people and the attitude. What country is perfect, aye? The society in Britain has grown to become more hostile to immigrants and foreigners, nevertheless, wouldn't say it is racist, but I would say that there is a significant proportion of the population that are bigots (and I don't intend to offend anyone). This is a wonderful piece. It seems like you're a fighter and I get that because you will still fight for a better life ; even if it means moving back to the UK ! Violent, dirty cities. My dude, seriously? Best wishes for your move. Not for Muslims it isnt. Dude, seriously, you're really shooting yourself in the foot here. No, I haven't experienced any racism here in North Yorkshire. If Britain has one problem is that it strives to be so much more than it should. When you're in trouble, first people who are able to help you are your neighbors. "The culture in Britain has moved from brilliant to that of hate, racism and ignorance." I've been back 18 months and I can see these issues, without any dogma of ideology. This is before any deductions. This didn't stop me, though, I persevered until I got accepted. My thoughts on growing up here and where we are now I've seen the UK become more and more racist since the 00's I guess. I want Britain to get better, because it is my home and I am and love being British. Because I think its going to be quite a negative one and to be honest that we have had our time in the premiere league and unfortunately we relegated out selves with an own goal, in classic British style! Thank you for letting us know. What might come as a shock is that I even loved the weather! Best of luck with your venture, I really enjoyed reading this article, you really nailed all the points! Szilvi, Szilvi, I hope you find your corner of nature and love. I had a really interesting reaction reading this. Hi Sandra, I know it's not easy to live in London. I don't complain about the process, due to the fact that I understand why any country would only want skilled migrants and high-quality citizens. I was alive when Tony Benn was in government and the UK had a 3-day week power shortage and no rubbish collection. Dream! [9][10] By 2005 the term had become widespread in its use as to refer to a type of anti-social, uncultured youth, who wear excessive flashy jewellery, white athletic shoes, baseball caps, and sham designer clothes. What about equality between all European nations who wanted to live in a great union? First I want to express my appreciation. I hated the weather, the lack of sunshine (sunsets at 3 PM????? "I love the British culture". I do agree that Brexit is a good thing because it will force Europe to grow and be better in business and improve their own cities and cooperation without a tick such as England. I agree what you said 90%. But I guess you took the right decision :/, Hi Cristina, it is very hard to leave the known and take a leap of faith into the unknown. But spending all your life covering up your origins because of racism at school means you are living a lie. After having lived in Canada (citizen), USA (Green Card) worked across the world including Australia, Middle East, most countries in the EU visited many other countries, it is my opinion that the UK is crap. Also, the "nicest" areas of the UK are not where the jobs are (Cornwall, Lake District, North Wales etc), whereas in Germany within 1 hour of Munich you're in the Alps, or 1 hour of Frankfurt you're in the middle of wine country. Somehow strongly connected with the point above, there is the problem of the land management in the UK. Germany had low morale and wanted a change in 1940's which allowed Hitler to come to power who blamed, you guessed it, Jews for all of Deutschland's problems. I can cook Cantonese, Japanese (my favourite), Thai, Indian, French, Italian, Spanish and what not! It does have it's strengths, mostly about work, but leisure is not one of them. Great post other than the politics! London is unaffordable because everyone and their dog wants to be here. Maybe I'm a little weird but it just works for me. Hi Cory, I found your blog after the comment you left on my post about the struggles of living in England this post sums up so many of my feelings about the UK and how difficult it can be to live here as an immigrant. Agreed! Furthermore, fun fact, but did you know the UK is the third-safest country to drive? Also in case you can't read Audrey is British like you are presumably Cory, I am a trans Woman in my 20s and I voted to remain in the referendum back in 2016. Rail fares have seen a huge increase since I studied in the UK from 2013-2014 to now, and it's just so prohibitively expensive to get anywhere unless you have a car or are willing to fly from the north to the south or vice versa. I heard the US is a wonderful country and despite its issues, if it makes you feel like home, then it is home. This got me thinking. I am bisexual and growing up in Romania vs UK are two different worlds - yes, Romanians were way more tolerant than British kids who physically abused and bullied me. For me, moving to the UK where I've traveled a few times a year for over 20 years for work and fun - is about spending time with friends and loved ones there and the opportunity to travel Europe much easier. But this was short-lived because I arrived in the UK during a dark time for Romanians and Bulgarians who just joined the EU. A birth country that doesn't fully accept me because I speak different, act different, live differently than the majority. The character, clothing, attitude and musical interests of Lauren Cooper and her friends in the BBC comedy series, The Catherine Tate Show, have been associated with the chav stereotype. I hope to God, James, that you get the taste of your own medicine. Are we finally getting karma for all the horrific things weve done to other countries? The one you get to see as an outsider and the one you experience once you are on the inside. Try to help your community and form connections because it's the only way to fight the bad. What an awesome post! If you don't own a car in the UK, I am very sad to tell you that train prices are ridiculous. What I always find hard to believe is how humans fail to learn from previous mistakes. Here, in Estonia, the winter is 6 months - cold, sometimes snowing, dark, wet, depressing weather. Really it is a daily sadness that I experience when I wake up and I think I don't recognise my country any more. Switzerland recently voted to restrict Islamic mosques. It created the perfect environment for me to work, write and create. Good luck to you in the future, wherever life takes you! The UK gets judged to a higher standard than other countries because of our history. Any economist will tell you that. Now living in Egypt is not without its problems but look at these prices: Cinema: 2, Restaurant: 5, Cultural Events: many are free, Internal travel: very cheap along with accommodation, gas and electricity being much cheaper than the UK or the EU and dont forget the Red Sea for a holiday. This is not the case in the UK. if you ever come to the UK, go to Scotland, you will love it up there. Also your whole comment is actually quite racist. HR Recruiters in this country care more that you still got GCSE qualifications than the vast amount of knowledge and experience you've picked up after fucking primary school. Nations that have been under oppression for so many years thanks to communism? Not for Muslims it isn't. In the UK there was always immigration but it was controlled and little, only the best and most suitable immigrants can enter. To be honest, the Brexit vote is hardly surprising, knowing the British people as I know now. Say anything uncomfortable, let's scream 'racist.' It makes me sad to read this. To sum up England used to be a nice place ,,,,so I moved back !! I think your article raises some very good points, however, I would add the following. Whether you decided to stay home in the UK or embark on an adventure in some distant land, I wish you health, wealth and happiness. That's a pretty sad position to be in. We've left again. Leave a comment below. So which country is the worst then? Reading this gave me a peace of mind. Dear Sarah, New Zealand truly is a wonderful place. France thought about it. I'm of Indian origin butI was born in the UK and I am thinking of moving to India. But that's ok, I was never afraid of hard work and long hours of study. Same elsewhere. It's a hiker's paradise, there's so much green, with ancient woodlands, rocky formations and medieval villages. Sure there are a few who give a bad name to people coming here to live, a few who are just in it for the benefits. Safety: the UK has one of the lowest homicide rates in the entire world The global peace index is NOT a good representation of safety, it takes a lot of other factors into account, for instance, the fact that the UK has atomic bombs and most other countries don't. The Pro: If you like cooler days and grey skies, you will love living in the UK. Newbiggin is a small fishing village in Northumberland North East, crawling with dressing gown wearing teenage mums, underage smokers and drinkers, and loud rowdy locals! Dear Cory, I think this is the most precious article on living in a country on the entire Internet. It always rains. The difference in skin color, the way of dressing or religion is something that attract a lot of atenttion, there are very very different people living in the same country. Senility is an ugly condition. I am getting to the point that I will miss Uk if I move back, will hard to get back to square 1 as life in Romania is still hard . You should point out it is illegal for Muslims to convert to another religion in the UAE. Bravo to your writing skills! I know the English think they are similar to Australians but how many people (pom ping-pongs, they're called) come back from Australia because they are UNWANTED? Thank you for your message. Stuffed peppers and aubergines with meat and rice. Bristol is actually just as wet as Manchester because it is in the west - so actually you did live in a relatively "rainy" part of England, yes. Because I was a Law student whereby language skills were paramount. You insult our country and our people. That sums it up. What has made this country an awful place to live is intolerant arseholes like you who are too uneducated to embrace what different nationalities and viewpoints have to offer. AHEAD of Sweden, Germany or Japan. The typical food in England is something that is also consumed in Chile, and is one of the things that I liked more of the country, both its sweet and salty food has very good flavor and is something that could eat every day without problem. In general, the climate here is very mild and comfortable, no hurricanes, droughts or deep freezes. From Downton Abbey, the UK became more of a Harry Brown. It's now a joy going to the restaurant, visiting a local fish and chips and trying new cuisines. We need more people such as yourself, who realise that indeed, the UK needs immigrants to keep certain parts of the country afloat. You see, I actually love the pace in London. This was not the intention of this article, to make people afraid or to deter them from moving to the UK. Think why that is. The difference here is that a small number of bigoted people are using racist rhetoric to manipulate the masses. I have been unable to find work in my field because they don't know what to do with my qualifications ('You need a UK qualification'), and the algorithm ber-usage in this country is insane. Many of them, in fact. I see that you have just joined this forum and reading your answers you seem to be from the UK. Do you have any questions or suggestions? So, since citizens of the world, are citizens of nowhere my advice is: 1) Keep your UK investments and properties and join the rentiers class We are all different and I hope that what didn't work for me, will be excellent for you. British culture is now 'whatevers' and to even have any expectations or respect is 'right wing' or some sort of phobia or ism. This country has ace roads in comparison to other places we've lived in. I'm a british born and bred caribbean, I left this country around the age of 19 ad travelled to many places during my youth, portugal, spain, France, Greece, USAalot of places. However I'm not sure if the uk will ever be the same. And frightening. thankyou for making me laugh ; that 5minutes of laughter was more valuable than 1000 holidays in the sun. If this article baffles you then install some baffle plates mate! Another reason Im wanting to leave Australia is because of the racism here and the serious lack of culture. You know growing up in a former colony of Britain and having an English education made me idealize London. Please do not come back. The best years were probably (economically and socially) from mid 1990's, 1993 until 2008 (esp the boom Blair years). Hi. You know why? There are so many rolling hills, empty, kept for a handful of sheep. The weather can be a bit daunting, right? You are a disgusting racist and a bigot. Thank you for posting this. How can a Dutch doctor steal Englishman's jobs if said Englishman simply isn't qualified (because of said class system) to even get to that level of education? The racists will swear up and down that they're not racist while being so completely racist. [8], The word in its current pejorative usage is recorded by the Oxford English Dictionary as first used in a Usenet forum in 1998 and first used in a newspaper in 2002. In London, a global city! Good luck, Cory. The personal story behind our decision to leave the UK (and come back after 4 years abroad). I know the feeling of no sunshine. But there's no garden without weeds, right? The 52% of those who voted to leave the EU, did so as the EU is a dictatorship that hates free enterprise and anyone who wants to individually succeed - the EU wants total control of everyone inculding those who run small to medium sized businesses. Argentina sounds amazing. May I wish you both all the very best with your trip. At first I got a bit touchy and defensive around some of the elements but then stopping to think about it, I've actually seen many of my own observations in what you have written. Brexit will cost the UK so much money and create a huge division. I'm British. It is quite a harrowing existence at times where I sit and contemplate how screwed I am living in this country. All the best to your travels and keep us posted.x, Thank you, Ryazan. If there has been racist attempts, they were not obvious. "Hey, yo," opens one frequently used sound clip on TikTok, "chav check.". I'm going to start by saying that it wasn't always like this. I love how you touched on just how expensive it is to travel in the UK too, especially by train (not that they ever run on schedule anyways!). James, you're saying that it's not as simple as a lot of the press talks about Brexit but I find your opinion full of hypocrisy because you LIVE in Germany, promote your business in Germany, and have the nerve to talk about how the UK is better yet What happens when you publicly turn your back on your neighbors and put them down? Paris is wetter than London..south of England gets more sunshine than the Low Countries..what were you expecting when you moved here wall to wall sunshine?! There are cheap things too but expect to get what you pay for. Their standards are on the up. I've contemplated getting a car dozens of times but it always turns out more expensive than not owning one. My eyes *roll* when White EU Nationals scream racism when British people call them out for treating their country like a hotel (with many paying hostel rates). ), they ran taxi firms and corner shops etc. I don't know where I'm going with this, so will leave it there. The question is why is the UK so expensive including the impossibility for a young graduate to get a mortgage for a flat in London? When we got married we decided to live someplace else and experience different cultures. You can't have a first worldly state and have open borders. Always. I cant afford anything! "Gainsborough is a town that barely figures on a map of the area, let alone England, set in the . This town is by far, one of the worst places to be in the whole of Northumberland. We have a shitty secondary education system and a generation of younger people who think that the world owes them something. I must also take a moment to express my gratitude towards your concern for my wellbeing. Our last update reflects that we chose to move back to the UK. We're also seeing increasing radicalisation in right wing politics because this process is a feedback loop. I wish you good luck. Im so worried and upset that Im stuck here and it feels like hell nearly every day. I think we'd agree with just about every point you've raised about the UK. My birth country is a tropical island paradise in the Indian Ocean. So anyone who voted leave has to live with the consequences of their actions and they have to ask them selves some pretty serious questions about the nature of their views and what they are rooted in. The problem with Britain is that it bends over backwards too much, and does not do enough - paradoxically, at the same time. Not likely to anyway. So, the tribalism, is everywhere in the world and the UK is still one of the most open and tolerant countries in the world. With a crime rate of 123.2 per 1,000 people, West Yorkshire is the most dangerous part of England. It might be because, even not being religious, I come from a Catholic country, but the way the "Alfie Evans Case" was handled by the hospital, media, judges etc. I gracefully think they are blinded by some terrible political campaign and inability to see the bigger picture. Answer (1 of 9): Hello Ian Kent and welcome to Quora. The level of racism in Continental European football matches for example is shocking. As to Philip de Boses' pathetic comment about the British being cowards - are you French by the way? Sure, the in the average pub food isnt so amazing here. 806 8067 22 Registered Office: Imperial House, 2nd Floor, 40-42 Queens Road, Brighton, East Sussex, BN1 3XB I think the part which shocked me the most was how friendly everyone seemed, how customer-oriented the service was tailored and the sheer amount of prospects anyone could benefit from. Italy will still have pizza, Portugal will still have pastel de nata and the UK will continue to have its pies. Hi Lena, it took a lot of courage to say all these things. Will be beneficial to sell my home here and move back ?? The blogger writes the country is nation of racists.then goes country hopping in Europe.only to return. Cory is multilingual and an alumna from The University of Manchester. Hearty breakfasts with omelettes, sausages (not bread filled sausages like British ones, as Im sure you heard of Polish kielbasa), egg, sour cream and white cheese. Then millions on renegotiating deals with countries who don't need the UK. It has changed from a land of invention and innovation to that of bloated consumer. [28] Writer Owen Jones also criticised the use of the term in his book Chavs: The Demonization of the Working Class. But something, somewhere, went wrongthus, we decided to leave the UK. A socialist government will. Ive come across your blog and found it heartbreaking that youve been made to feel this way in great Britain. I'm beginning to feel incredibly out of place and more at home when I'm on my own whether I've locked myself up in a room at my parents, or traveling solo around the world. We created 42droids which became the pillar of our careers. Have fun singing in the rain on your island. 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